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Up In Smoke + I Will Be Buying LotFap Carcosa

December 5, 2011

Remember Jewel Throne? Of course you don’t, it was damn near a year ago that it was announced. Unfortunately, Blair is a big ol’ pot smoking wastoid and he probably rolled the submissions up into a fattie and straight blazed those motherfuckers. I hereby declare JT dead, and I also declare that blog dead because now it’s filled will some tl;dr campaign crap that makes my eyes glaze over trying to read. Where did the lusty Algolian hijinks go? Who knows.

Yes, I will be buying the new Carcosa. Just doing it to support Geoff, who lives in the middle of nowhere and rants about the federal government so he needs all the help he can get. Probably he’ll use the money to build a fertilizer bomb and blow up a post office, but he’s earned it in my book and if that’s what he wants to do, fuckin’ go for it, bro.

But I can’t imagine ever pulling this thing out and using it. J4 is all proud of himself that he’s filling the pdf full of hyperlinks and easy navigation shortcuts but when you supersize the page count from 96 pages to 288, you have to do something. I can pick up my Carcosa book and know instantly where to turn whenever I need something, but 288 pages is a fucking unwieldy special needs child that demands a padded helmet and sleeping restraints. Crowing about curing a problem that you created? I award you no points and may God gnaw your balls off. Also it looks horrendous. Kent called the redone cover a paw print, but it looks more like dook-smear on a wad of tp. The interior art is a bunch of wack-ass bullshit too, including the poorly-done map redraft.

But I’m drawing the line at Isle of the Unwanted, I can only support Geoffy’s Ayn Rand lifestyle for so long.

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  1. December 6, 2011 7:00 am

    >>Kent called the redone cover a paw print, but it looks more like dook-smear on a wad of tp.>>

    Faggi thumbed his anus fairly vigorously to get that smear.

  2. Timothy permalink
    December 6, 2011 8:19 am

    How does being the willing pivot man in a militia circle jerk earn Geoffy the right to interrupt the delivery of my mail? That would be great if Carblowsa pedporn was not delivered to you because your contribution enabled him to go on a Geoff-had and self-immolate at a post office.

    On second thought, buy two.

  3. December 6, 2011 11:20 am

    That is my only real fear about YDIS and my contributions to the lampooning of their suckdungeons here – finally setting off one of those Assbergers Hats lax about taking his psych meds and then later learning they went out and hurt or killed some innocent people. It’s a tragedy just waiting to happen with these Assberger types.

    • Roger Moret permalink
      December 6, 2011 12:57 pm

      Has Alexass killed someone I haven’t heard about yet? It was only a matter of time. I’ve met tons of fake Aspies in the gaming community (basically, any fatbeard who doesn’t want to shower and date and exhibits antisocial behavior tries to claim they are an Aspie, but most of the time they are just jackholes) and I’m ready to declare Dao the real deal….I’d rather share a cell with Don Rickles for a year than an elevator down from Floor 2 to Floor 1 with Alexasperger. But since I prefer the bunker mentality, survivalist anti society bend of Geoff, I’ll probably pop a few bucks for Carcosa and hope it will supply him with much needed ammunition and bottled water.

  4. Zakfaggot permalink
    December 6, 2011 11:30 am

    You know what would go good with that Carcosa? A copy of my magnum opus Boreheim. I mean, think of how cool your city will look with all the streets looking like numbers (sheer, sheer brilliance, thank you). You do all know you are too stupid to just have streets go left right, or forward like in any sane city, right? Use my rules and your city streets will look like a bit out of 70’s educational cartoon media like Sesame Street or The Phantom Tollbooth. Man, you gotta dig those crazy streets that end up looking like numbers 8 or 6. Outside the box, bitches!

    Anyway, please buy it so I can get the hell out of Canada with my skanky GF and go back to LA where they appreciate skeevy, pretentious artists with no talent but lots of chutzpa (that’s right, I’m also a jew. Now you have a really good reason to hate me).

    • Timothy permalink
      December 6, 2011 11:43 am

      Zak invaded Canada? When did that happen? Was it so he could do an underground version of I Hit It With My Ass?

    • December 6, 2011 1:59 pm

      Poag isn’t around; it’s OK to be a Jew.

  5. December 6, 2011 11:33 am

    THIS. IS. CARCOSA!!!

  6. December 6, 2011 1:50 pm

    Speaking of dead blogs, I finally had to take mine down. Someone really hurt my feelings on there and my life mate left when he found out I was actually a guy. Maybe I will bring the blog back if the doctors make my dick nub look like an actual snatch. For now I have to say goodbye. Sorry I couldn’t say anything intelligent, but I can say things like “ass shit fuck” all day long. Satan rocks, if anyone can give me virtual high-five.

    • Roger Moret permalink
      December 6, 2011 6:27 pm

      Mistress (or Mister) you are always welcome to “ass shit fuck”, here is your virtual high-five you Satanic freak (said with love and respect of course)

  7. December 6, 2011 2:16 pm

    “he’ll use the money to build a fertilizer bomb and blow up a post office”

    Really? He makes child rape and murder a game mechanic and important part of his D&D fantasy world, and the post offices in his area are what you are worried about? Don’t you think there might be a reason he has to live 20 miles away from the nearest elementary school? He’s probably smart enough to not keep the remains on his own property, but maybe the authorities will get lucky and find a clown suit in his attic with the blood stains of an 11 year old girl around the front of the pants.

    But don’t bother buyin that crap to support this guy. Just take your own D&D world, remove orcs, make the humans green, purple, or whatever, and make it so you have to rape a little girl for 11 hours to cast your sleep spell. Sprinkle tired-ass Lovecraft monsters liberally. There, just saved you whatever the fuck Carcosa costs.

  8. kent permalink
    December 7, 2011 3:09 am

    Has anyone seen ‘No Country For Old Men’?

    • December 11, 2011 10:31 am

      Haven’t seen but read. Pretty good, and a quick read, although with your tastes you might find McCarthy’s prose affectations irritating until they blend into the background. You should definitely read Blood Meridian, which is really, really good. McCarthy’s one of the only people other than Gene Wolfe who’s written anything worth reading in the last 30 years.

      • kent permalink
        December 11, 2011 9:54 pm

        Reply is below…

  9. December 7, 2011 9:03 pm

    “…when you supersize the page count from 96 pages to 288, you have to do something”

    Like, I don’t know, not do it in the first place?

    Are unburdened rules and unpadded settings that can actually be navigated through at speed going out of fashion now, or something?

  10. Red_Mage permalink
    December 9, 2011 3:18 pm

    Hey YDIS, Thought you might like to know that the Greyhawk Grognard unwrapped his lips from Gary’s rotting cock long enough to accuse you of doing the unthinkable! Giving people advice that there are too many similar small print RPGS in the market.

    http://greyhawkgrognard.blogspot.com/2011/12/go-screw-yourself.html

    • Anonymous Gamer: The Voice of Reason permalink
      December 18, 2011 3:06 pm

      Why am I not surprised to see RPGNet’s resident anti-social psychotic Red Mage in this shit hole?

  11. December 10, 2011 8:36 pm

    Check out the new art from JaMal’s suckdungeon is space:
    http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2011/12/telekinetic-shield.html
    It looks like Mr. Sulu inside a condom trying to lick out every last drop of his gay lover’s jizz…

  12. kent permalink
    December 11, 2011 9:53 pm

    As one who likes post-apocalypse fiction I was surprised when he made a good fist of The Road. I have been recommended Blood Meridian before but didn’t follow up on it; will take a look.

    In fact I was being lazily cryptic. It was the sentiment of ‘No Country For Old Man’ I was hinting at. Judging from the comments on the last post particularly and some on this I fear the cheerful crop of gentleman mischief-makers has been superseded by a nest of brash dunces, unregenerate and insane.

    • December 12, 2011 7:59 am

      Don’t worry Kent. I’m sure Sulu will move on to the outer anal side of the condom to lick off his own feces like you seem to enjoy doing.

    • Timothy permalink
      December 12, 2011 9:23 am

      We get it, Kent, you want to play in Carblowsa. That clearly makes us dunces.

      Blood Meridian is the best Americam novel, so you will reflexively hate it.

      Return to your album remastering gulag.

      • kent permalink
        December 13, 2011 4:10 pm

        Now isn’t that just a little like turning your nose up at plastic faeces because, ‘it just doesn’t smell right’.

  13. December 12, 2011 10:05 am

    And I’m sure you know this, but if you get a critical edition of Blood Meridian, avoid the prefatory stuff until after you’ve actually read the book, because it’s invariably spoiler-filled and pushes a particular reading. Especially the Harold Bloom version that’s the default for newer editions over here.

    • Roger Moret permalink
      December 12, 2011 10:22 pm

      Sentimental twat that I am, I enjoy McCarthy’s All the Pretty Horses more. Although it’s hard to wipe that abortion of a film out of my mind’s eye. Oh, and Suttree probably has his best dark humor bits (in contrast to his just flat out dark bits).

  14. December 13, 2011 12:43 am

    I never read Suttree, checked it out of the library and then got busy and returned it before I got around to it. The movie version of All the Pretty Horses came out before I’d read any McCarthy. I always come around to modern authors late because I assume everyone is full of shit when they recommend things. It’s a good rule of thumb.

    I gave away a lot of books recently, like actual carloads, including a nice edition of The Border Trilogy and decent paperbacks of Blood Meridian and Child of God. I think the guy to whom I gave them will read them, or at least Blood Meridian, which I talked up pretty big.

    According to Wikipedia, James Franco is now sniffing around the inevitable Blood Meridian movie to feed my delusion that the cosmos is actively malevolent.

    • Flapit permalink
      December 13, 2011 6:28 am

      Say Mr. Fancy Literary Pants, don’t you have a magic gathering or emo meltdown to attend to?

      • December 13, 2011 8:10 am

        I might have been born just plain white trash, but Fancy was my name. 😦

  15. December 15, 2011 6:37 pm

    Don’t forget to check out ChristiansUnknown Zine blog for some good laughs and boring ass posts. His current “group” folded recently, just a few weeks after he bragged about buying and supplying them all with World of Darkness rulesbooks. Wow. Back to posts about buying mini’s he’ll never use, cooking shit food, surfing alone cause cool surfers won’t talk to him, and his latest horrible fanzine (the lastest of many failures).

    • kent permalink
      December 15, 2011 6:47 pm

      Point out something funny in what you have just written.

      • December 16, 2011 7:12 am

        For an English faggot, you have become surprisingly boring and stuffy. Perhaps you need to take yet another hiatus to plumb the depths of your colon-like ego and reconsider how you’ll yet again deign to come troll the sewer with us rats.

    • JRT permalink
      December 15, 2011 8:05 pm

      Christian’s constant failures and rejection are not meant to be a source for your sick and childish amusement Kent. Christ, for a fudge packing homo, you sure aren’t very sensitive to other people’s feelings. WHY DON’T YOU GO BUY THE BABY RAPE AND SNUFF CARCOSA PDF FOR $22 BUCKS AT RPGNOW YOU SICK PEDOPHILE FUCK!!!!

      • Christian permalink
        December 16, 2011 9:49 pm

        I’m sure the holidays are a sad and miserable experience at the motel where you rent a room, JRT. Perhaps that accounts for your seething rage and inability to communicate in a kind and decent manner. Like the angry little exclamation point, life must be one big bummer for you. I wish you luck in 2012.

        Merry Christmas!

      • JRT permalink
        December 16, 2011 10:32 pm

        SHEESH! Try and help a guy out and this is what you get. Why don’t you take a nice long walk on the beach in your apron Christian and reflect upon how your hurtful comments have oh so deeply upset me. If this is how you talk to your players at your revolving door game table, no wonder you can’t keep a group together!

      • Christian permalink
        December 17, 2011 8:51 am

        Jesus Christ, JRT. Let me spell this out so that even you can get it. I have a group. There are four of us. I have been playing with these guys for almost five years. The core has remained unchanged. It’s just the periphery players that come and go.

        Then again, you wouldn’t know anything about migration. I’m sure that in whatever midwest hell hole you live in people lead nice sedentary lives and never go anywhere except WalMart and Hometown Buffet.

      • December 17, 2011 10:51 am

        Why are you insulting an entire region of Our Great Nation? What’s wrong with you? If you don’t like JRT, fine, but don’t get pissy about a piece of geography.

      • JRT permalink
        December 18, 2011 8:47 am

        I’M FROM PHILLY YOU EMASCULATED WEST COAST TWAT!!! Christian your wife called. She said you can have your penis back when you take off that Nancy boy apron.

      • Anonymous Gamer: The Voice of Reason permalink
        December 18, 2011 3:02 pm

        JRT, you are seriously mentally ill, probably more than anyone else that posts here, and not in an Internet insult “u r insane” sort of way. I’m talking full-on clinical psychotic and you need to seek out professional medical help at a mental health services provider. You need to be on medication. Good luck with that.

      • JRT permalink
        December 19, 2011 5:50 pm

        IF I EVER FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE ANONYMOUS GAMER TWAT, I AM GOING TO FUCK YOU UP THE ASS WITH A RUSTY CHAIN SAW!!!

    • Christian permalink
      December 16, 2011 9:41 pm

      It’s not nice to say mean things about people, exclamation point. If you are going to say hateful things, at least be a man and stand by your own name.

      At any rate, my food is not shit. It’s actually quite good. The money I make cooking tomorrow night will buy me a new board. I’ll ride that board when I meet up with some friends. They are pretty cool people, actually. On a related note, I’ll probably buy the new sled on my way to a friend’s house on Monday. We’re going to be playing Burning Wheel. The game group is very much intact. This time of year it’s quite common for people with friends, family and relationships to take breaks from gaming.

      I’m not sure what it’s like inside your head, but it appears to be a desperate and angry place. I hope the new year brings you some peace of mind.

      • Name Required permalink
        December 17, 2011 12:52 pm

        Perdustin wrote: Why are you insulting an entire region of Our Great Nation? What’s wrong with you? If you don’t like JRT, fine, but don’t get pissy about a piece of geography.
        Yeah, it would be really unfair of someone to make sweeping statements and broad generalizations about a person or people he has never met. That shouldn’t happen on the internet. Someone call the cops!

      • December 18, 2011 6:15 am

        I was deeply offended by Christian’s hurtful remarks about the Midwest. He should show these comments to his grandmother and explain how proud he is of what he has written.

        I hope Christian takes a moment during this holiday season to reflect upon all of the pain he has caused. Maybe he can come to terms with whatever it is that makes him act so mean.

      • Anonymous Gamer: The Voice of Reason permalink
        December 18, 2011 2:59 pm

        Christian, may I humbly suggest you move on from here and forget this shit hole even exists? It’s not worth your time and effort, man.

      • Timothy permalink
        December 19, 2011 7:09 am

        I used to think Christian was kinda cool, but damning the whole Midwest because of JRT’s ramblings? Particularly after that self-righteous “show it to your grandma” drivel? Perdustin has it right.

        Of course, maybe Christian’s grandma does hate the Midwest, and instilled that hate into him. So if he showed her his online writings, maybe she’d high-five him.

        Still some pretentious shit.

  16. December 16, 2011 11:43 am

    Irony is something those British poofs just don’t get. And let’s face it, they are swimming in it.

    There is not just irony in the delusions of of old school gamers. There is extra “funny” in Christian goings on because he seems to be doing the best he can not to let Mr. Suck’s wishes in previous post go to waste. And the fact that he has a bunch of followers encouraging his weird ego trip (trying to leave a “mark” on the OSR – or maybe that’s a bacon stripe like Tao of Suck has in his undies). Jesus Christ, he just did a post about the lousy chump change 30 bucks he got from a Coinstar machine. Guess what? He’s gonna buy more mini’s he will never use! Snare drum rolls. Everybody laughs (those last two lines are for geektards who just don’t get it).

    • Christian permalink
      December 16, 2011 9:54 pm

      Wow! Just..wow! I’m not sure if I should be flattered or frightened that you read my blog so closely and write the kinds of things you do in response.

      If you have a wife or girlfriend, show her what you have written about me. Point proudly to the screen and say, “Honey, instead of helping out around the house, exercising, walking the dog or spending time with the family I wrote this angry, hate-filled tirade about a person i have never met. Isn’t that something? Aren’t you proud of me?”

      Seriously, look in a mirror and say to yourself, “I write angry posts about a person I have never met. This is the best use of my time. My children would be proud of me.”

      Like I said….wow.

      • JRT permalink
        December 16, 2011 10:35 pm

        See? Now Christian is getting curious about our children. I’m telling you this whole OSR Turdosphere is really a front for the pedos in NAMBLA!

      • Christian permalink
        December 17, 2011 8:53 am

        I refuse to believe that anyone has let you procreate with them. And no, slipping some disgusting whale a mickey does not count as consent, JRT.

      • JRT permalink
        December 19, 2011 5:54 pm

        CHRISTIAN I AM GOING TO SEX YOUR BITCH UP ROUGH IN FRONT OF YOU AND THEN PISS IN HER MOUTH WHILE YOU STAND IMPOTENTLY BY CRYING IN YOUR APRON NANCY BOY!!!

    • Roger Moret permalink
      December 17, 2011 1:56 pm

      God that was excruciating….well, at least the couple of paragraphs I made it through were torture. Anyone make it to the end without swallowing their own tongue?

    • Anonymous Gamer: The Voice of Reason permalink
      December 18, 2011 3:04 pm

      Kent, you strike me as someone who can dish it out but not take it. You’ve crossed over to the Dark Side now pal.

      • kent permalink
        December 18, 2011 3:56 pm

        Well I tend to flit along the boundary being quite popular with both the better and the worse angels of our nature.

  17. Radovarl permalink
    December 18, 2011 6:10 am

    Anyone else come across the news that Paul Jaquays is seeking gender “reassignment”?

    • JRT permalink
      December 18, 2011 8:42 am

      JESUS MOTHER FUCKING CHRIST is there ANYONE left in this whole OSR scene who isn’t a GAY COWBOY EATING MAN PUDDING?!?

      • Radovarl permalink
        December 18, 2011 9:11 am

        Just the ones who are still in denial… Oh, and of course JMal, who is asexual.

    • Timothy permalink
      December 19, 2011 7:11 am

      Um…what the god damn fuck? Trapped in a man’s body all these years?

      Hello, Paula Jaquays. Never too late for dreams to come true, eh?

  18. Anonymous Gamer: The Voice of Reason permalink
    December 18, 2011 2:57 pm

    This place is like a mental institution where the inmates have taken over.

    • kent permalink
      December 18, 2011 3:58 pm

      That is premature, you haven’t yet.

      • Radovarl permalink
        December 18, 2011 4:01 pm

        Heck, I was just going to thank him.

        Anyway, kent, did you ever pick up a hardcover set of the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser stories?

  19. December 19, 2011 11:39 am

    I love Christian taking shots at fat chicks and the entire midwest, meanwhile wagging a finger and asking what the GF’s would think over our ugly language. More good laughs here. Hey Christian, what would your fugly wife think? I think we all know what your 1st wife would think. That you are a tool. Hopefully she is getting laid some pipe from a real man now. Meanwhile, seeing as you have the sort of lesbian look that Jaquays had, maybe you should see about getting some sex change yourself. You are already halfway there it seems. Your wife makes the money and you do the cooking.

    Why are YOU watching this site so closely? Because you are as big an asshole as anyone else, that is why, Stop acting like the poor picked on huckleberry. When you shut the group down after the NPC kill, you blamed Los Angeles for your shitty games in your post about it. Boy, are you deluded.

    Who cares if you have been going and sulking through years of some other groups games. You probably go to troll for victims for your own games. It seems you might blame the systems (LL, WoD, 3rd ed. D&D, etc etc etc) for your sunday dungeon sessions sucking. But it is your shit skills at lack of ability to make correct choices and wing it. A regular player kills another players character and it’s all good and business carries on as usual. But a player kills an NPC and you shut down the campaign. Wow. I don’t think you have any respect for your game, your players, or yourself. You call the sunday thing “nerd Sunday.” Not even D&D players want to go to a “nerd Sunday.” You are a fucking joke.

    Stop worrying about getting followers for your blog and putting together failed zine after failed zine. Learn to actually love the game and you might start actually having fun with it, instead of trying to be a big voice in the OSR. You don’t have the insights of a JaMal or the skanky whore friends of a Zak. Listen to the fucking advice on this site. Get a fucking clue.

    • Radovarl permalink
      December 19, 2011 12:48 pm

      JaMal has insights? I though he just reiterated the same obvious, insipid points over and over. I must have missed something.

    • Timothy permalink
      December 19, 2011 1:05 pm

      And this site has fucking advice? Must have missed that, too.

      Radovarl is right – Jimmy Mal’s insights are rather limited to repeating the OSR canon over and over and navel-gazing. Especially compared to Christian, JM’s posts are tame explorations of the same, worn-out territory.

  20. December 19, 2011 2:29 pm

    Delete the unwisely used “insight” and replace with “posts whatever comes to mind and has the time to do it up to 3 times daily.”

  21. Timothy permalink
    December 23, 2011 11:18 am

    Merry Christmas, fellow assholes!

  22. JRT permalink
    December 24, 2011 7:57 am

    I would like to take this opportunity to wish Stephan Poag a Happy Hanukkah!
    May your new year be filled with scenes of baby rapes, ogre cocks and orc shitting!

  23. Reid Fleming permalink
    December 26, 2011 7:07 pm

    I cant find a single baby rape or orc shitting piece by the guy. L’il help?

    • Timothy permalink
      December 29, 2011 8:53 am

      Search Poag’s blog. He may have taken them down, but he was proudly displaying them in a series of posts earlier. Dungeon Suk Boy may have linked to them, you can try looking back here. The main one I recall was Poag posting about trying to get Faggi to notice him, so he drew some orcs cutting up a man and fucking/shitting in the various pieces. He talked about how he should have done it with a baby instead to get attention.

      Shortly after that Faggi announced the new version of Poag’s gay flip-mat monster book. Evidently little Geoffy was inspired by this in the list of dumbshit monsters on Isle of the Unblown.

      • Roger Moret permalink
        December 30, 2011 1:54 pm

        I can only hope those images are included in Pog’s monster flip book that seems to be taking roughly the amount of time George Martin’s Game of Throne series does between releases. Only so many ways to show orcs banging corpses, one supposes.

      • December 30, 2011 3:41 pm

        Please note that the work which is linked above has been dedicated by Poag to his fans at Y.D.I.S.

        Truly, Poag is very giving.

      • December 30, 2011 4:15 pm

        Perdustin wrote: Please note that the work which is linked above has been dedicated by Poag to his fans at Y.D.I.S.

        Actually, no, if you read it again you will see that it hasn’t been dedicated to you, although if it flatters you to believe that it was, then by all means continue to do so.

        Roger: I’m glad to hear that you are anticipating the new version of Exquisite Corpses and I apologize that it is taking so long. Perhaps LotFP will allow you to put in a pre-order.

      • December 30, 2011 6:59 pm

        My apologies Limpey. The caption reads “Dedicated to my fans at Y.D.I.S.” In English, this means “Dedicated to my fans at Y.D.I.S.” I hope you can appreciate my confusion. In the future, I will assume that phrases on your blog that appear to be straight-forward English actually mean something quite different than what they would mean in English.

        Out of curiosity, what language were you using?

      • December 31, 2011 8:49 am

        It seems that a conspiracy of unregenerate hackers has altered Poag’s original dedication. Fortunately, I had the foresight to anticipate such underhanded douchebaggery and I preserved Poag’s dedication HERE. Now the world can see Poag’s thoughtful dedication as he truly intended it.

        No, there’s no need to thank me Limpey, it is WE who should thank YOU.

        Have a joyous new year everyone.

  24. Timothy permalink
    December 29, 2011 8:55 am

    Hey, our English Faggot is on the RPGsite defending kiddie-porn as a “thought experiment.” Kent has officially gagged on one too many re-mastered cocks.

    • kent permalink
      December 29, 2011 5:27 pm

      ‘Timothy’ … hmm … not really a name for a grown up is it? Of boys’ names only ‘Timothy’ has less potential than ‘Billy’ to survive to maturity with the expectation of being uttered with respect.

      • Timothy permalink
        December 30, 2011 6:22 am

        Are you really claiming that “Timothy the Fierce” or “Timothy the Mighty” does not stir the blood, and instill fear in the stoutest of Irish drunkards?

  25. JRT permalink
    December 31, 2011 5:03 pm

    I WISH I COULD FIND THAT NAZI PIG FUCKER STEPHEN POAG’S SLUT OF A MOTHER, SMASH HER JAW SO IT DROPS DOWN LOW AND USE HER GAPING MOUTH AS A URINAL! I’D FINISH UP WITH A NASTY SHIT IN THAT WHORE’S FACE TOO!

  26. kent permalink
    January 2, 2012 11:21 pm

    http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-i-spent-new-years-eve.html

    Can someone (without cursing) explain what lego has to do with D&D? I too have a nephew whom I occasionally allow get the better of me with some crafty boyish high-jinx in some instant juvenile dungeon. But Im afraid there are many and not only J. Mal and Jeff Rients and Zak S. for whom the game in childish aspic is the limit of their ambition. Is there anyone else out there for whom D&D evolved as they matured and is not merely a redolent summer memory like some Ray Bradbury short story?

    • Radovarl permalink
      January 3, 2012 9:31 am

      Lego has nothing to do with D&D. Fucker (sorry, had to do it).

      No, you’ve got it about right with the childish aspic. Playing RPGs is an inherently juvenile activity which has about as much potential for profundity as JMal’s insights into them are deep. It’s playing with toy soldiers, dude, no matter how many charts, tables, maps, mathematical models, or narrative strategies you apply to it. The OSR has done me a great, if difficult to accept, service by placing in stark relief the fact that gamers are almost all emotionally stunted, hero worshiping d-bags resentful of anyone with something better to do with their time. What little joy there is to be derived from playing D&D seems to stem from walling oneself up in the fantasy “dungeon” and hiding from the outside world.

      Oh, and just for the record, Gygax was an ignorant dipshit with lousy taste in literature. Anything listed in Appendix N with merit is there purely by coincidence. Conan sucks. Yeah, you heard me, REH was a friggin’ hack. Gardner Fox? Yeah, okay. Lin Carter? Ummm..

      I now return you to your regularly scheduled incoherent ravings.

    • January 3, 2012 9:46 am

      The old JG module “Temple of Ra Accursed by Set” had guidelines for using Legos to model the temple. Like most JG modules, it wasn’t very good.

      D&D hasn’t evolved for me, kind of the opposite. I have even more trouble taking it seriously now than I did as a kid, and have been able to sustain literally no “gaming ambition.” I try sometimes to be more serious about it, but it’s an inherently dippy endeavor and it’s really tough to keep a straight face.

    • kent permalink
      January 3, 2012 7:36 pm

      > Playing RPGs is an inherently juvenile activity which has about as much potential for profundity as …

      I think all you can say is that for most it *began* as a juvenile activity because of the age the hobby was adopted by gamers.

      Profundity is not being aimed at. The question is can gaming be immersive and engaging for adults *as adults* without having one eye on memories of distant games, the other on pleasing one’s children.

      I think that an evening’s gaming should be as emotionally intense as rewatching your favourite films. My suspicion is that those who play like children have children’s taste in film. My point is that your group brings whatever taste and maturity they have at their disposal to the table and that the game is a blank canvas. What surprises me is how universally childish this taste is when lego and cartoons are discussed in the same breath as ca Smith.

      >The OSR has done me a great, if difficult to accept, service by placing in stark relief the fact that gamers are almost all emotionally stunted

      I read ‘The Elfish Gene’ recently and found it a depressing read.

      >D&D hasn’t evolved for me, kind of the opposite. I have even more trouble taking it seriously now than I did as a kid, and have been able to sustain literally no “gaming ambition.”

      We’ve talked bout this before and I remain baffled. I am not likely to understand it without watching you in action. Dumbing down for gaming is a missed opportunity.

      • January 6, 2012 1:59 pm

        Damn it all, now WordPress has started eating comments (unless our gracious host has decided I’m no longer welcome here, for reasons utterly beyond my fathoming).

        Profundity is not impossible although I’d hesitate to describe anything I’ve done as such (it just smacks of self-aggrandisement). If I were to describe how my gaming has altered it would be something like juvenile mediocrity > adolescent pretension > occasionally genuinely harrowing stuff > ironic mediocrity where I’d try harder if I thought nobody would get the giggles after a moment or two. One hates to talk down one’s players but it can’t be denied that I’ve had honestly moving experiences with groups of artists/actors/academics and at best enjoyable shenanigans with self-identified ‘gamers’.

        Also: I’m glad I’m not the only one who was brought down by Barrowcliffe’s masochistic hatchet job. I recommend it to people in a ‘read and be cautioned’ kind of way but it did upset me somewhat.

  27. Radovarl permalink
    January 4, 2012 4:07 am

    “Profundity is not being aimed at. The question is can gaming be immersive and engaging for adults *as adults* without having one eye on memories of distant games, the other on pleasing one’s children.”

    I’ve witnessed it being immersive and engaging for adults, but I think the “as adults” part is more problematic. The group I’m thinking of utilizes the game as an outlet for all of their real-world frustrations and impotencies, engaging in behavior with their PCs that is troubling from a psychological standpoint and/or simply an expression of wish-fulfillment. There’s something about devoting endless hours to enacting the roles of fantasy characters that has always struck me as “escapist” (and not in the good sense). There’s a fine line between recreation and denial/rejection of reality, and I fear too many gamers cross that line sometime in their teens and never find their way back (case in point: RJK). I’m sure there are exceptions.

    • January 4, 2012 6:37 am

      +1.

      Getting too “profound” in here, though. What is this, VampireMUD? Why is lego so expensive and why did Clark Ashton Smith have such a massive gay following? (http://www.violetbooks.com/taves.html)

      • Radovarl permalink
        January 4, 2012 6:55 am

        Sorry, I’ll stick to bashing neckbeards from here on out :).

        Lego is expensive because it’s popular. My own kids have a metric crapload of the stuff. I would never buy any of the Lego games for them, though. They’re perfectly capable of using the regular minifigs and blocks, etc. to create their own “dungeons”, and have been doing so since long before Heroica was on the horizon. And no, I don’t play Legos with them.

        Not sure about the affinity of the gay community for CAS, unless it has to do with poetry and art attracting a disproportionate number of “alternative” lifestyle types across the board. I don’t think much has changed on that score–many of the current hardcore CAS fans, editors, etc. still strike me as gay. For the record (such as it is), I don’t have a problem with that, and I don’t understand the obsession around here with matters of sexual preference.

      • January 4, 2012 8:17 am

        Thanks. I suspect it has something to do with the long chaste tradition of the “erudite pen pal.” Everyone wants to know whether he wants to touch the other guy’s butt more than the other guy is eager to reciprocate, or less. Just in case. But then they never meet, or if they do it gets uncomfortable. Why else would the “The Hounds of Tindalos” and “The Shambler from the Stars” be so…worked up?

        The funny thing about the lego games is they’re cheaper than a goddamn module that maybe 1,000 people will ever read.

    • kent permalink
      January 4, 2012 9:18 am

      From: http://bombasticus.livejournal.com/

      >That’s what I really want to do, regain that intensity of eight years old and combine it with the added context of adult perspective — to see for the first time into all the rooms of the house where gaming was going on. So many of those rooms were forbidden or just plain incomprehensible to us as kids.

      That’s a fairly interesting blog though you seem a bit nutty. You could do with digesting your cultural references longer before regurgitation. Its like you can’t wait to share and what comes out is only once-chewed.

      • January 4, 2012 9:22 am

        Yeah! I do need to blog less and ponder more. That blog is like an inconsistently irritable bowel.

    • kent permalink
      January 4, 2012 4:48 pm

      Jeez, I can’t annoy anybody these days and Im like the invisible inaudible man on therpgsite, some nice barbs going to waste there. What’s wrong with everyone? Be offended.

      • Timothy the Untamed permalink
        January 5, 2012 6:23 am

        You’ve lost that lovin’ feelin’, Kent.

      • January 6, 2012 2:32 pm

        You’re not sucking enough cock, English faggot.

      • January 8, 2012 3:51 am

        Your contributions to the RPG Site seem to be either astute observations, pearls cast before swine (not Swine though) or Chevski-like regurgitations of your prior observations. There’s little there to be annoyed with, to be honest – or perhaps people have stopped taking themselves quite so seriously?

  28. January 5, 2012 3:29 pm

    >That’s what I really want to do, regain that intensity of eight years old and combine it with the added context of adult perspective — to see for the first time into all the rooms of the house where gaming was going on. So many of those rooms were forbidden or just plain incomprehensible to us as kids<

    Are you sure this quote isn't from boy-fucking gay rapist and college football hero Sandusky? Sounds like something a child-porker might say.

  29. Bob whiskers permalink
    January 6, 2012 11:09 am

    A month without a post. I am fed up checking for fun new posts abusing people I don’t care about.

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